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. >>> joining me is rachel smoke from politico there. zachary carabel and democratic strategist david goodfriend. only gentleman here not wearing a tie for some reason. no tamron, no tie. >> i'm in new york city with you guys today and i'm going tieless in honor of it. i think it's the only way to go. >> pick it up with rachel. we'll start with you. this exchange between senator reid and speaker boehner, when's the inside baseball here? is this more about establishing who could very well get the blame if all of this continues to go south? >> that's right. happy new years, america. we appear poised to dive off the fiscal cliff starting with a round of finger pointing today. this is classic gridlocked washington. why america is fed up with the lawmakers and all about pointing fingers, gaining the upper hand here. and also, gaming this out because if we do dive off the cliff an we don't get a deal in the next couple of days, which looks increasingly like where we're headed then we come back in january and have to negotiate again and a political advantage for both sides if that's the case. >> her's
cycle. >> let me play what mary kay henry said to rachel last night. let's play it. >> we are reawakening and going to build a powerful movement. make it crystal clear that snyder can't get away with this. >> bill, we heard again this threat in wisconsin after what we saw and what labor leaders describe as an attack on unions there. the governors that are set to be in jeopardy, rick snider and scott walker, john casic and rick scott. are the threats something that the labor leaders can pay off? >> there is not any evidence right now. they were energized this year and got the signatures to put this on the ballot in michigan proposal to enshrine collective bargaining and got over 600,000 signatures and it got clobbered by an almost 3-2 margin on november 6th. they can huff and puff right now, but they are playing defense is what it gets down to. >> we talked about the options in our first read. they can file legal actions charging the process and violated the states and opened meetings act and overturned it bypassing a voter initiated law. are those two long shot options the
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